VINCE COAKLEY 9 13 HOUR 2

The Vince Coakley Radio Program
Wednesday, September 13th

VINCE INTERVIEWS DANIEL HOROWITZ.

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That's pretty strong indictment. We continue to broadcast your seven minutes after the hour of 11 o'clock. Now one of the big issues that certainly made a big difference in the presidential campaign. Is immigration. And sealing our borders but it looks like. One of the key elements of this seems to be at taking a back seat in the discussions that are going on. A piece by our good friend over conservative reviewed Daniel Horwitz surge. Illegals rushed the border for Trump's promise of amnesty. So it isn't so mister Horwitz what's going on here man. Made no I hate being proven right I mean that the one area I think we always we were wrong. Oh boy what's going on now and how in the world that we possibly arrive. At amnesty. As the as an ending place year. So a lot of people focus last week on the headline news that seemingly the president got rid of Obama's illegal executive amnesty. The problem he'd he'd get suspended its growth but he's promising to basically continue renewing them for another six month. And it didn't boring congress not to name being asylum reform chatting not refugees. Ending Sanctuary City. Obviously building the wall though he actually gave in on now on that budget bill that didn't have any border on. Demanding that the path legislative end of the that you can hold over the executive and it he would sit ended January 20. And united fully ending now. And and that he could well you don't do eggs executive at a legislative and he will veto it might get continue. Executive and the Foley on he's meeting with below the humor all the Democrat of that thing about it. Aid coming off of the debt ceiling and budget betrayal working with the Democrat he's now in public and the at a meeting with. Several Democrats yesterday. Com and then you know most disturbingly what I wrote about. Is that it now legislative affairs director Marc Seward said yesterday. When he was asked whether they're good at least you know at least if you're gonna give in this amnesty which it we moved beyond that. On my thought we are done with thirty years and amnesty. By Al at least get the border law upper right you know make that a precondition is that now. We don't want to do that because we don't want to find out in top construct that would make that conclusion on doc and popped the ball. Still watch it now become. It ended the is that guarantee that they entitlement that the right that urgent need emergency. On and we don't want any enforcement to get in the way of that dude. If I want to tell elect Jeb Bush would have voted for and. Who that's pretty strong. Jeb Bush so what do you think you touch on in your article is effective there seems to be a little change going on the border. And you wonder whether this has something to do with some of the talk in Washington. That kind of suggest amnesty. Don't bet they mean it hasn't been endless cycle of amnesty the problem is it's not just hit it. They're the fact that we're gonna spoke give the nightly. With a sense of urgency. On aimed at the before. Dealing with enforcement did ten to twenty items coming off the magnate border security interior enforcement. Had been entry verification system all the stuff that's been promised for 2030 years has been in the implemented eighth that the breach of the social contract. That you over responsibility. To. Protect our security and sovereignty for. Before you deal with any yo did I hear it aspirations of illegal immigrant that number one but also strategically. On fear because. If you're going to do any and BP before implementing the enforcement and that is precisely what has been gender and lift. Streamed to the extreme today and speak because the minute you promised them that peg of the border third because of Obama de. Got up we had a 2014. Search from Central America and coming here on. All the interviewed from attacked the intelligence agency Buick Southern Command has confirmed that what motivated then. And and now we're doing that again does the note that piece. On one of the big accepted the trauma presidency wasn't his presidency and with that campaign rhetoric. Because immigration is not a rocket science illegal immigration. It's just simply incentivizing her death and then divide in the behavior. Trump to rhetoric scared them off. And get a lot. What are cropping during the first few months of the presidency to rock who seventeen year low and noted grade six that. Because it demonstrates and that no we're hearing about enforcing our laws were gonna put American first we're done with and at the plot in top. Now all of the last couple months that he'd been promising and with B and people are starting to realize in the paper tiger on this issue. You know it surged by 260%. In the low and April every month for the last four months it's still because of raw numbers dropping. Its relatively lower than black here. But at this trajectory we're going to be creating that same problem so it simply indefensible. To talk about amnesty before we shut down the border. So basically if I hear you correctly Daniel you're saying. That the campaign was great for reducing. Illegal crossings because people had the impression. We're gonna get serious about the border we darn well better not try it but now as president. The opposite signal has been cents and now the border crossings are back up. Exactly exactly one if you promised to the world. The minute you bring a child here a year basically year to date. That you know we're we're gonna wind and giving you would not just into the need more than amnesty and it being mean you don't understand. It means that we're gonna get right do you green card at plated pinch hit. There are always gonna come he hears became the open borders crowd place. On the one hand their rhetoric port and full end because they pay you know anyone whose party or that yet be given him. But then when they come up with that specific proposal lead they wanna get get our support that they noted how Italy united have a people or just that the limited group that. That you know they're all the military and they're all he needs is an all out Victorian been and the look the American people whenever facilitates the planet but the reality is. Once you do that that merely a down payment and it can engender millions more a lot of people don't realize Orion to accommodate for example and says. That yet we gotta just do this in in India wanted to keep adding that problem in ten years. Ironically. People ensure we perpetually have a problem I'd been denied it because it. People think that were giving in to TDK it's not true. These are people that are mainly in their twenties and thirties they were brought here a kid before he gathered that it could this even deal with those that are. 3571012. Right now. They came after 2000 and sent it right so. Get what. That could be the next act well ideally a ten year old for sure yet he didn't speak and then get with a net access advocate. Do you divide Italy do you get the parent and it speaks to wolves just got pepper and that is why. In two hole and I'll let we not just in rhetoric and legislation but actually implement. You know ten or so reforms to cut off the minute comp birthright citizenship prospectively. On either although welfare education. An and at the border wall at visa tracking and asylum loophole. And all this stuff and the court the ability to meddle in grant judicial and speak. And at that point come back to mean we can revisit what you wanna do with the legal immigrants but what ever happened to putting Americans first. That's a very good question do you have a moment stay with us Daniel because there's additional question I would approached you about the wise and where force of this. Short at only we will live continue this conversation here 163 demurred he'd love to get your thoughts 80347163. Our text line 713. Jurist seven and we will finish or conversational Daniel Horwitz conservative review. Straight ahead. Yeah its interest in what's you can take in during a commercial break. An interesting discussion that I think will have to have tomorrow and I dare not. Dare not talk to Daniel Horwitz about this will be and this discussion for the rest of this hour. I'll see some very in and antipiracy. And you another time about this subject. But I want it to the wise and where forced and you about this. What appears to be achieved year by the drug administration on the issue of immigration. Can you answer the question why. I don't know I mean maybe sit every player so internal to each speaker that that need it's pretty obvious. EE EEO. Ideology is now what makes this man take on it a matter of making deals like getting stuff done. Armed and he realizes that where the power in Washington is with the laughed so you wanna get stuff done. Build they're more than happy to get that done and back to what they're gonna get done it's not the matter personnel policy. And there's literally not a single conservative in the west wing less. You know that's and it only count therefore the net but everyone knows he's in the doghouse to try uncomfortable like in either Kabila's main gate and the. I'm Steve band and couldn't let that a month that the administration. You know abandoned Al Gore good out on the on their entire staff done mean evil act it was a reporting that Jerry it was working with. Dick turban. On net immigration for a three month. So they're there you go I mean Garrity Don got a Kelly who's the cheapest that he would eject secretary at the beginning of the administration he with a very passionate supporter of the so called dream amnesty. I battled weight. It's funny get them talking to you I got an email from a friend of mine. Who sent me a link for the Migration Policy Institute its. It left wing think tank but yet and good debt up. And it proves my point eight said that the DREAM Act is not about 800000 people it could go wind up in the eating up the 3.3 million. That that that's what trump and the speed and it sort of blow he would meeting with Paul Ryan today. On the on the during and at the and then get lucky headed toward the White House. This is gonna pick up all the Intel. Up from Ryan you know what what they're willing to do than ticket straight to drop. Phyllis. Yeah it's I running this Daniel I remember several years ago. When there is an effort tried to carry out immigration reform. And I think it was talk radio that helped to put a stop to it years ago. You know we had a Republican presidents and it's you know I there's really nothing that could've stopped this other than the people were just so so relentless on this. And we stopped it now here we are and we've come full circle Daniel. But now it looks like we've got a president who's willing to sign this. Beyond I'm really scared I I have been fighting amnesty for twelve years. That have been one my top issues. Just you know my book literally Dolan sovereignty and its leaders in the sovereignty of America's being stolen from the front. I feel very passion that the issue I thought that 2006 it doubt that in 2010 and 2013 I would intimate. Repeat site I've never been that concerned because it you know we either of. Had Obama pushing it or we had. George W. Bush pushing it and that would pretty top computer Republican president. But he Syrian Donald Trump picks who would elected is the border hop. And built a lot from the conservative bait and what I'm starting to see if people that would never otherwise sign on to that are either. Signing onto it or downright indifferent because they don't want criticized him and they care more about him an issue. And at this very tragic because I want people during the primary. I didn't opposed trumped two rhetoric I loved it. I do here's the thing you did not really eight. On it to what one thing that comes to mind a beautiful quote that I can even Miller wrote for him during his. His Arizona speech let the. But he also at that but the truth is essential issue is not the needs of the eleven million illegal immigrant. Anyone who tells you that the core issue is the needs of a living here illegally has simply spend too much time in Washington. There's only one cor issue and immigration debate and debt issue with the well being of the American people. And look I get seven month that Tim would do too much time and a lot of improvement. And it's just absolutely mind boggling and you know at least to another question here is this an issue because it seems to be the foundational issue as to why Donald trumps the White House the first place. And everybody's been talking about this unbreakable bond between Donald Trump and his supporters. What's gonna happen there is this going to have the impact for those millions of people swear by this man. I I don't know. I mean this is the job of talk radio and particularly the people that point in him upon not. You know it's time to to worry about the republic. And EE you know I told you from day one I would neither for a trump Lorraine diatribe but I would for what I'm always for. Tended they've been about it where he'd help would cheer Mon where he stands in the way we got a bulldozed and and and Hedo. Did they beat problem like this that would be any need added administration. That he'd be great play went when Jared Kushner one now but if you look at two grudge and you look at from the big option host the don't care about. It is very day. An and we're gonna need all the focus we came telling the truth about the ratification. Of the NDP. On what it's doing encouraging a new border thirds Pallet that moral how we need to be focusing on. On the effects of illegal immigration for Americans before we cut that any and it beat. But instead what bothered me more than the position trumpet taking is the rhetoric. That he's making this a must acting they get that much did not know well must get done like you said before. Into let me give you did get to another quote. From that same speech trump said a word that he said when politicians talk about immigration reform usually mean that following. Came to the open border lower wages. Immigration reform should mean something else entirely it can mean improvement star a lot of poppy to make life better firm American citizens. I'm just still pit stop until in you I mean. You know. So one needs to take the fight directly to land odd trump is sensitive to what conservatives think testing that the good thing Ryan McConnell couldn't care less. On its so that's where he got up by the pressure. You know you brought up an interesting thing here. Where are those talk show host and other people have been beating the drum for trump over the immigration issue where things were they talking about now. The conservatives can never allow cults of personality if they get their way. You know I supported pit crew the primary beatle recently when he was playing put these on the obamacare bill and you know I'm not gonna I'm not a bad back in the media who he voted for the debt ceiling agreement obviously you had a cup position could be tied. The text that parking bonding too late. But you know I want to get suddenly hear it on because the guys deported with deporting. You got it wrong he's wrong in her. That's what it comes down to if a person's wrong they're wrong. Doesn't matter. Exactly exactly and admit it my concern. In many respects what trumpet turning out to be that a Democrat is what the Muslim Brotherhood is to al-Qaeda. If he technicality. I hit the perfect. All flag opposition to. Played they're fearing that practice ground to allow a year and a meat to peek round they can never take without you we Yunel and able then. By its arming the opposition mean I think if you had. On Hillary or Jeb Bush president speaks doing that type of crap on you would have. Rebellion by now but steadily Miller want to do anything about it and an I just think if that's true it is what it. Rapid trump might be the main who could potentially put handed he'd Wear out books and and now an Obama fail to. This is one of the things I've expresses concern long time ago. And Daniel it is you know people say why are you always pressured Republicans what you're going after Republicans. Well and this is example why I know with the Democrats are and I know what they're doing. It's worse when you have someone in your so called camp. Who's doing the same thing it's the people. Working those purposes on the inside of your camp who do more damage in my right. Absolutely because that hurt and any opposition from mounting. It orwellian. It's the perfect ball flight opposition Orwell always throw that ninth 1984. On ended moreover it just you you wind up convincing people that would otherwise be righteous on the eighth seeded generate support something they would never support this the big problem. In many respects if we don't rain the men and he's kind of like a nuclear bomb. That we thought we the other unit they get their opponent that would now captured by our own it's. The nanny had more power than that we ever thought they would hat. And this blows up in our faces witches. Insert your expressing geared Daniel. As usual very interesting information. And I'll talk with you about the other issue are fair perhaps a little bit thanks for coming on today meant. Support. Out of Vince Coakley radio program. Alright I'm serious here folks and I'm not being. Smart Alec witness you trump supporters. What's going on here. How do you characterize this and how do you stop this train that seems unstoppable now toward amnesty. 80347163. Or text line 71 threes are seven. 38 minutes after 11 o'clock what are your thoughts on what we've been talking about here. With Daniel Horwitz expressed concern about its. The path where were on what I've said to you about a conversation. And how important that is mental health care. When we start talking about. Issues like. The pre existing conditions when you start talking about. How many people are insured if that's the discussion. How many people are covered. You've already lost. Because the number of people with insurance is not a federal government issue period. It's not. So whenever you hear politicians start to talk well under this plan this many people covered under this plan. It's none of the federal government's free can business. Never has been. And never will be. The problem is once we concede on that issue and that becomes the subject of discussion. We're done. Here is how conservative. Or libertarian. Talks about this issue. What is the legitimate role of the federal government. Where is it in the constitution. OK it's not fair end of discussion. How do we get out of what were already doing. Very simple folks it's not complicated. Immigration. What is the issue and what is the substance of what I thought. So many people were pushing for with his presidential campaign. Let's seal our borders. Let's provide genuine border security. Let's limit immigration in general. So that our immigration policies promote America first. We don't exist for other countries and other residents. No matter how generous or whatever it is. We are thought to be. The primary focus. Is honest. This is the same thing you deal within a family. Yes charities are wonderful thing. But I'm not gonna let every homeless person into my house. It's not even Weis but we had this discussion the other day about the debt ceiling. Did you hear Rand Paul's message we played that. Yes it's great it's wonderful we're gonna help people with. Issues that are the result of flooding. From Harvey. But at what cost. So we're gonna go into deeper debt to help people. So on this issue. As relates to immigration. Let me repeat again what's our purpose. What is an America first policy. That focuses on America first not illegal immigrants first. Not dreamers first. America and Americans first. I mean which people think about others outside the country. But it means. You put that hardworking taxpaying Americans. At the top of the priority in this discussion once you start going down a wrote. All we need to help these people and that becomes the central focus of the conversation. You're done. The conversation. Is already out of control. I would love to get your thoughts. Earlier we were talking about what's going on with the power outages techsters says. Hey these guys he's pike guys and others they're not supposed to sleep at some point. Never occurred unit working round the clock doesn't exactly meet every person is working around the clock rather than in shifts. That is from Q. Some patience and consideration probably in order. That a person saying here paid those Catholic Church that person saw it may have been going to a more direct location with lives in danger then returning. The next day. On illegal immigration of the illegal aliens don't believe trump one on earth. Does Kim Jong-un in the PRK thank. No repealed no wall. Other texture here immigration in when America's broken. He broke in socialist Third World country. Vince stop running your mouth. Start running for office you've got my vote. No that's kind of you to say. Some point me comment more about that but I. Do not wanna say when I'm thinking. Just being honest with you. I read trumps tweets and then listen to Daniel segment about amnesty which is way different what trump is tweeting he seems to know more about what the president's doing the the president himself. Who is lying. Good question. And where I'm putting my money. Great show mister Vince. It could be his well amen. And is that the truth. Everyone needs to call people in DC tie up the phone lines you know this is the other thing I know Daniel touched and on this or someone else. The other sad thing about this. And I'm not sure we have touched on this. This does not if you wanna take down Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan this is the last thing you need to do not only with the financial Leo that was done with the debt ceiling this provides them cover to do the very thing they've been doing all along. If you're gonna go and agree with Democrats. But this is perfect. It is no longer are they the opposition. Hey we're just supporting the present. Folks that. This since chills down my spine it really does. It's all these figures are bogus docket equals amnesty and close to reality figure. 65 million illegal immigrants in effect if this passes our country's laws not to mention the Republican Party. No events. I don't think. He mentions a person's name ever turn on from regardless of what happens on immigration. Charles slowly being drugged Kelli Emmett master behind it Kelly blocking everyone that supporting trump even blocking his daughter from him. Kissed Texas device so goes America. But events don't you realize people will die if they don't have government insurance. Oh it's just awful is it. Much more as we continue to Vince Coakley radio program your college or text and we will talk about something good that congress has done yes it's a shocker. As we continue its 1146. Ten minutes before the noon hour. Getting your thoughts on the conversation Daniel Horwitz among other things we have discussed. Already have just picked up there's a sense of men. This cannot be allowed to happen and I think you're right it should be odd happened. Vince to president trumps credits I believe the illegals coming across the border. Been cutback in half at least that's we're told is that correct. So when will wall when the wall finally goes up it should significantly reduce the number of illegals coming across the border. My thoughts on the immigration issue cannot be legally aired. It. I Syria. A huge area. That you will skip this one Coakley for president when he twenty that's ago and likeness. If they tried to tell people what we are going to get with rob nobody listened open borders here we come thank you your Buckeyes fans. To the text in recess without insurance we will go 82 things guaranteed. In life birth and death we will die. Every series testifying this is about aids. And she said you know it's really sad all the young people specially dying from aids. But you know she is and says you know alternately I guess were all gonna die of something. You think. They events Lindsey Graham is a traitor to his constituency I pledged anyone run against Lindsay Graham misty in the next cycle I would build their website for free. Oust Lindsay. Well. Already. I can find candidates. Ends the other thing you've got to do folks I keep coming back to this you've got to get rid of open primaries in South Carolina gets rid of them. It's killing you. My goodness. And we hear is that story. There's going to get to. Before leaving today it's actually a positive story. And I was quite shocked to see it. And why is it disappearing from view. It was a story about something that we've discussed recently. The concerned about us. The horrible practice of civil asset forfeiture. The hill has the story about something that is happened yesterday. I would put via. Question what's gonna happen in the senate now. The house has voted to curb the law enforcement practice. Of seizing cash and property from people were suspected illegal activity. But have not necessarily been charged. They're gonna curb it. A bipartisan group lawmakers pushed an amendment to a government spending package for 28 team that would prohibit. The truck administration from using funds to remove restrictions on the use of asset forfeiture. The practice allows law enforcement seized cash and property and keep at least part of the proceeds. Opposition to relaxing asset forfeiture limits produced a strange. Bedfellows effort by members of the conservative house freedom caucus and liberal progressives. That's a strange union isn't it. Sponsors of this amendment. Justin a much. Mark Sanford. Raw old Labrador. Camilla. Some of these people have never heard of rope conduct and Don buyer those last three people I mentioned are Democrats. There amendment was specifically restrict the use of what's known as adoptive forfeiture which allows the federal government. To take assets seized by local authorities critics say the practices allow local authorities to circumvent state laws. That we're stricter than under federal statute. About two dozen states have laws that make it harder for authorities to seize property if a person has not been convicted of a crime. Folks is this basic constitutional stuff. That you should not be denied white. Liberty and property. How the world can we get some place for this is ever allowed in the first place. You're not supposed to be denied these things without what due process. Justin a much. During the house floor debates that this practice is outrageous it's a place the authority of states. To regulate their own law enforcement it further Myers the federal government and unconstitutional. As set forth for search. The amendment easily adopted by voice votes. The amendments. Lawmakers. Expect to pass with the fourth spending package with the attached amendment later this week. Back in 2015 then attorney general Eric Holder issued orders restricting the federal government from taking assets from local authorities. But the exceptions for public safety reasons. Attorney general Jeff Sessions directed the Department of Justice in July to reverse the policy saying. Asset forfeiture is one of law enforcement's most effective tools. To reduce crime and it's you should be encouraged where appropriate. Is this ironic. I actually agree with air colder on this Jeff Sessions. For our all the things she's right on he is dead wrong on this one. And I hope that house prevails. Let's hope and pray the senate doesn't remove this. We're back tomorrow at yourself degrading god bless you daycare.
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